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Oldgamingfart



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheShadowRunner wrote:
Is there built-in DSP for Mario Kart, etc...?


Yes there is, I was playing Mario Kart on one of them the other day Smile The 'Cartridge Information' screen lets you know if a game has DSP or not.
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Oldgamingfart



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

UPDATE: All units have now been sold, the last one remaining is boxed but has a missing BIOS chip. I can sell this one for GBP£30.
A standard FFE Super Wild Card DX programmed BIOS should work fine in its place, although you'd be on your own here.

Also if anyone wants any photographs of the innards let me know and I will post them here.
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kyuusaku



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm interested in PCB pics.
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Oldgamingfart



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kyuusaku wrote:
I'm interested in PCB pics.


Here you go, I decided to post them as URL links as some of the pics are quite big. The BIOS chip is missing but it would normally comprise of a M27C2001 2 Mbit (256Kb x8) UV EPROM. If anyone needs the model numbers of any of the semiconductors let us know:

Mainboard with 32M Memory:
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/4940/dscf3644o.jpg
32M Memory bank:
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/8682/dscf3645d.jpg
Cartridge connector & AdHoc board markings (with date):
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/4248/dscf3648h.jpg
Panasonic Lithium Coin VL2330 3V backup battery (rechargable):
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/5530/dscf3650.jpg

CPU, Decoder chip and memory socket:
http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/1878/dscf3651.jpg
Parallel port & reset switch:
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/7775/dscf3652al.jpg
Unit without casing:
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/2676/dscf3654.jpg
http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/908/dscf3655w.jpg

Cartridge connector to mainboard connectors:
http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/8206/dscf3657.jpg
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/7882/dscf3658a.jpg
http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/1360/dscf3659vo.jpg
Cartridge Connector:
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/2475/dscf3661.jpg

Teac FS-235HF Floppy Disc Drive:
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/6195/dscf3662.jpg
Jumper pins (NTSC):
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/7237/dscf3664r.jpg
http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/1807/dscf3665.jpg

For the jumper pins, it would be interesting to know what the settings are for PAL use. If anyone has a PAL unit that they can inspect, please let us know the differences. I am assuming that the U10 SNC4011 Decoder chip would need to be replaced with a PAL CIC?.
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Mystic_Merlin



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, very interesting stuff! Most components aren't socketed but everything is well documented on the PCB, nice.

I never owned an original DX but I don't recall there was a reset switch?
Also, I like this custom PCB bridge to move the FDD forward.

For the U10, I'm assuming the same Smile
Regarding the jumpers, that's a total random guess but based on the Super Wildcard I would say you'd have to move 3-4 to 1-2, 7-8 to 5-6, 11-12 to 9-10 to set the copier in PAL. Since I believe the DX has a user settings SRAM maybe moving 13-14 and 17-18 would clear it?

I would gladly spend those 30 GBP on it but I don't have a EPROM burner, maybe one these days...
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Oldgamingfart



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, thanks for the info. One of my customers is currently doing some testing so I will pass on the information and see what the outcome will be. It seems that from the current order of:

0 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 1 0
the following are critical to NTSC operation:
0 1 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 0
so your suggestion for PAL operation would be:
1 0 1 0 1 0 ? 0 ? 0
....with some option for SRAM for 13-14 and 17-18 (trial and error).

0= no vertical jumper
1= vertical jumper
?= not sure
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Mystic_Merlin



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here I attached a pic of my PAL Super Wildcard (works flawless on a Japanese SFC with a Jap cart in). As you can see, the jumpers are moved following this scheme:101010 ; so it make sense that for your DX from 1-12 it should be the same.

The CIC is PAL

Regarding 13-20 that's a total random guess of mine that it should concern user settings reset. Following the same logic
1010 = standard
0101 = reset

Your best option is still to wait for kyuusaku's input Wink

PS: I mentioned "SRAM" before as a type of memory for saving the BIOS' settings, I'm not talking about the SRAM used to save games' settings.



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Oldgamingfart



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent , thanks for the photo as well. I've yet to get hold of a PAL CIC, but I think I might have an old FIFA soccer cart lying around somewhere, so I can pull the PAL CIC from that (it probably has a D413A).

Yes we will wait to see what kyuusaku says also. I'm wondering now if it might be possible to make a PAL/NTSC compatible version by using a very long switch, so that both CIC and jumpers can be changed with one action Idea
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DoctorBackup



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn, very nice pics. I think as I said before never seen this version. Looks VERY well built too.
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Oldgamingfart



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DoctorBackup wrote:
Damn, very nice pics. I think as I said before never seen this version. Looks VERY well built too.


Indeed, the quality of the soldering and PCB make it look like it could've been manufactured by any big-name Japanese manufacturer.I'm not sure how it compares against the original FFE version, but if it's anything as good as this then it'll be built to last Cool

Also another thing to note, the PCB marking around the FDD power socket says 'AC/DC In' with what looks to be an AC to DC rectifier next to it. I wonder if it was therefore designed to be used with a PAL SNES adapter (which output AC volts), just so that they have all bases covered?
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Mystic_Merlin



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oldgamingfart wrote:
Excellent , thanks for the photo as well. I've yet to get hold of a PAL CIC, but I think I might have an old FIFA soccer cart lying around somewhere, so I can pull the PAL CIC from that (it probably has a D413A).

Yes we will wait to see what kyuusaku says also. I'm wondering now if it might be possible to make a PAL/NTSC compatible version by using a very long switch, so that both CIC and jumpers can be changed with one action Idea


A switch like there used to be for the Amiga's kickstart?


You could probably do that with 2 CIC and a DIP switch like that:

but unless you plan to switch regularly from a PAL to a NTSC SNES I don't really see the point and still I find it easier just to put a cart in.
Smile
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Oldgamingfart



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mystic_Merlin wrote:

but unless you plan to switch regularly from a PAL to a NTSC SNES I don't really see the point and still I find it easier just to put a cart in.
Smile


Indeed it probably isn't something you'd do on a regular basis. I'm sure the mod would work in theory, even if it is a little bit pointless Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The reset button could be a hack for the parallel port, I think it can get stuck in a bad state after a transfer or if the transfer is interrupted.

As for AC in, yeah, DB1 = diode bridge. Many copiers will have a protection diode, but won't rectify AC. The FFE DX might have had this too, I dunno.

The thing is definitely licensed since it has FFE's ASIC, almost everything is exactly the same as the original, if it isn't entirely. The layout and better Japanese components are nice, but I dunno if I'd say it's on par with big electronics of the time (Sega Saturn?), by 1994 everything was SMT and designed for high frequency (not that it's really needed for SFC). If anyone Bung was closer.

(Mystic_Merlin: User settings are in the serial EEPROM.)
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Mystic_Merlin



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kyuusaku wrote:
The reset button could be a hack for the parallel port, I think it can get stuck in a bad state after a transfer or if the transfer is interrupted.


Nice trick...I remember my SWC suffering from this problem but not the SPFQ.
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Oldgamingfart



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

UPDATE: The remaining unit (missing the BIOS chip) has now been sold, so there's currently no more units left.
If the moderators wish to close the thread or move/ archive the later posts (regarding the inner workings), to another section please do so accordingly.

Best regards,
Oldgamingfart
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