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Ruger



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:52 pm    Post subject: CCL Pro Fighter history Reply with quote

I am trying find out which versions of the CCL Pro Fighter copiers that were released. Robwebb's pages and the like is well known to all of us, but I am not sure if I should believe everything I read there. I hope you guys will help me with what you know - and that you find this interesting Smile

So which versions of the Super Pro Fighter, Pro Fighter X and Double Pro Fighter were released?

- 1993 - Super Pro Fighter series

I have seen pictures of:
a) Super Pro Fighter - http://www.robwebb.clara.co.uk/backup/ccl/pics/superprofighter.jpg
b) Super Pro Fighter Q - http://www.robwebb.clara.co.uk/backup/ccl/pics/profq.jpg
What confuse me is the term "Super Pro Fighter Q+". Is this a different unit than the Super Pro Fighter Q? If different, do they look different?

- 1994 - Pro Fighter X series

I have seen pictures of:
a) Pro Fighter X - http://img453.imageshack.us/img453/5157/profighterxplanetmqv9.jpg
b) Pro Fighter X Turbo (3 in 1) - http://www.robwebb.clara.co.uk/shop/copiers/prof_x.jpg
c) Pro Fighter X Turbo 2 - http://www.robwebb.clara.co.uk/backup/ccl/pics/pfxt2.jpg
Are there other Pro Fighter X versions from CCL?

- 1994 - Double Pro Fighter series

I have seen pictures of:
a) Double Pro Fighter - http://www.supermagi.com/datas/users/1-double_pro_fighter_front.jpg
b) Double Pro Fighter X - http://www.robwebb.clara.co.uk/backup/ccl/pics/dblprofxturbo.jpg
What confuse me is the terms "Double Pro Fighter X Turbo" and "Double Pro Fighter Q+". Are these just other names of the Double Pro Fighter X?

- various -

X means DSP1 support?
Turbo means GB/GG smartcard support?
2 means?

Did any of these units have a parallel port?
Was there ever a CDROM unit released, or did CCL cancel that project?

Hope you experts will help! Smile

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Pro Fighter Qs had a built in LPT port, but I think the PFX lines required the add-on LPT card. I've never seen a PFX CD-ROM drive.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are all the true models:

-SPF
-SPF Q (parallel)
-SPF Q+ (parallel + built in RTS/slow motion card)

-PFX V1 (case looks like SPFQ)
-PFX V2 ("normal" looking)
-PFXT (*perhaps* multiple revisions of the same thing, just PCB/sticker revisions)

-DPF

SPFQ+ do exist and have a slightly different logo on the case.

The PFXT2 is just a PFX with upgraded BIOS and all the DPFX I have seen are identical to DPF with just a new case/sticker. DPFQ+ etc don't exist.

I'm pretty sure you have it right, PFX have DSP support, PFXT have built in Smart card support.

Note that parallel ports were not standard on SPFQ/Q+s, most don't have them. Fortunately, it's not too difficult to add one.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was a Super Pro Fighter Q+ without a parallel port, I know cause I've got one.

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Ruger



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all info!

About the DPF and DPFX. Does anyone know if the DPFX have a DSP1 inside?

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DPFX is a DPF which cannot have one internally.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kyuusaku, do you know if the PFX V1 case says PFX or SPFQ?

Do you think this is a DSP version of the SPF Q+ or is it a PFX V1:
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/9205/4a931bqo0.jpg

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The PFX will say PFX; That's certainly a SPFQ+.

BTW, the SPFQ+ doesn't have an optional built in DSP like PFX(T?)s, it requires a plugin cart so it's not a special DSP version.
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Trenton_net



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heh, is there a copier line that has a more complicated naming convention than Pro Fighter?

Its like they looked at Capcom’s Street Fighter and decided “Heck, we can be more confusing than that!” Razz
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kyuusaku wrote:
BTW, the SPFQ+ doesn't have an optional built in DSP like PFX(T?)s, it requires a plugin cart so it's not a special DSP version.

So even though the case says DSP it does not have one inside (?), but only says so to show that it can play DSP games if you have an external DSP cart (?).
So, this is the normal case for the SPFQ+ with RTS/slow-motion card?

Thank you kyuusaku for sharing your expertise!!!

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ruger wrote:
So even though the case says DSP it does not have one inside (?), but only says so to show that it can play DSP games if you have an external DSP cart (?).

Yes
Ruger wrote:
So, this is the normal case for the SPFQ+ with RTS/slow-motion card?

SPFQ+ has RTS/slow-motion built in. This is why it's SPFQ+, SPFQ doesn't have it built in Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks kyuusaku!!

Regarding the the various Pro Fighter X Turbo models with Smart Card support:
Can it be that the "Pro Fighter X Turbo 3 in 1" is just a relabeled "Pro Fighter X Turbo 2", and that CCL did this when the Smart Cards went from being GB-only to being GB/GG.

If this is correct "3 in 1" might mean SFC, GB and GG - while 2 meant SFC and GB. Am I correct assuming this?

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ruger wrote:
Regarding the the various Pro Fighter X Turbo models with Smart Card support:
Can it be that the "Pro Fighter X Turbo 3 in 1" is just a relabeled "Pro Fighter X Turbo 2", and that CCL did this when the Smart Cards went from being GB-only to being GB/GG.

AFAIK, all PFXT hardware is the same, including PFXT2. The only difference is the BIOS and label.

Quote:
If this is correct "3 in 1" might mean SFC, GB and GG - while 2 meant SFC and GB. Am I correct assuming this?

I'm not sure but that sounds probable, the answer might be on the box.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ruger wrote:
kyuusaku, do you know if the PFX V1 case says PFX or SPFQ?

Do you think this is a DSP version of the SPF Q+ or is it a PFX V1:
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/9205/4a931bqo0.jpg

Ruger


Yes that one has an internal DSP chip, or at least it should have as the bios displays INTERNAL DSP: ON/OFF
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thall wrote:

Yes that one has an internal DSP chip, or at least it should have as the bios displays INTERNAL DSP: ON/OFF

Thank you for helping out Thall! It's a jungle. Do you have one of these in your collection?

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