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rofl
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 Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 10:06 am Post subject: NES games on the SNES cart ? |
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does somebody know a software or emulator, that can convert NES games in SNES format so they are playable with the super flash ?
there is a bunch of such software for the GBA, i.e. SNESadvance |
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kyuusaku
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 3:14 am Post subject: |
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| The simple answer: not possible. |
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rbudrick
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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Just because the systems use very similar processors doesn't mean the systems' architectures are the same. Conversions can be done, but it takes a lot of reprogramming. It would be a total pain to do. I would say that at least a majority of every line of code of every game would need to be reprogrammed to address the SNES correctly.
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kyuusaku
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| Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah there are those scene conversions (AS) ROMs, but they don't have sound. Memblers of NESdev released a NSF player for SNES. Too bad SNES isn't fast enough to emulate NES (perhaps it is with SFX2 or SA-1 :) |
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Trenton_net
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| Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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| I suppose non of the"scene conversions" are really any good, outside of being a flashy Intro / Demo for whichever group produced it? |
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kyuusaku
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| Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Well, the games work well as far as I remember. None make very impressive ports however, the games are all early titles which take little advantage of the NES. |
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rbudrick
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| Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Too bad SNES isn't fast enough to emulate NES (perhaps it is with SFX2 or SA-1  |
Hmm, never thought of that. Mapper emulation would be interesting with these processors. Certianly more plausible than without. I wonder why no one's tried it. Can't the SNES support up to 4 of these processors on one cart?
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kyuusaku
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| Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 3:46 am Post subject: |
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| Not that I know of. For full compatibility, the emulator would need a pixel-based renderer like modern PC NES emulators, which means ~8mhz. Maybe if the SNES did controllers/sound while the overclocked (:P) SA-1 did CPU & PPU would it be possible. The SA-1 would need to be overclocked another 10-20mhz. |
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rbudrick
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| Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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I think I read in this book (which is AWESOME, btw),
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0744004241/sr=1-1/qid=1154448858/ref=sr_1_1/104-4546061-4695110?ie=UTF8&s=books
that up to 4 of the last add-on processor made for the SNES cvould be used (interviews with the designers, etc.), though, iirc, only 2 max were ever put in a cart. I also understand, you have to be a damn good programmer to make all 4 work together. With that in mind, if you could overclock them all, I think it would be extremely interesting what the SNES could do...especially interms of emulation.
-Rob |
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