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Videogamer555



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 6:07 pm    Post subject: SNES vs SFC controller? Reply with quote

I know there's difference in the button color and the labeling between the 2 controllers, but is there also an electronic difference? I'm asking because I saw this on the item page of an SFC controller being sold on Ebay.
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This controller is only for Japanese super famicom.
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madman



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Assuming I didn't know the answer, I used Google and finding the answer took me less than 10 seconds. I suggest you try using that.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ebay seller just does that to ward off liability. The main difference is the buttons are different colors and Y and X are concave with B and A convex. On the SFC all buttons are convex. On the NES both A and B were concave.
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Videogamer555



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about the power supply? Is the connector that fits into the power connector on an SFC the same as that for the SNES? In other words, if I buy a Japanese SFC, can I use my American SNES power supply with it?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow.
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amptor



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 9:30 pm    Post subject: Re: SNES vs SFC controller? Reply with quote

Videogamer555 wrote:
I know there's difference in the button color and the labeling between the 2 controllers, but is there also an electronic difference? I'm asking because I saw this on the item page of an SFC controller being sold on Ebay.
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This controller is only for Japanese super famicom.


here's my quick answer: Controllers from all regions are compatible with all regions of consoles.

I usually use a PAL controller on my NTSC deck. NTSC/U controllers had concave and convex buttons designed so the player can determine which button is under his thumb. PAL and NTSC/J controller buttons are all convex.

About the power supply. Check what type of power supply the console requires. As far as I recall, the PAL power supply was not compatible with the NTSC/U deck. I think the NTSC/U deck required DC and the PAL one was designed to convert 220V A/C into something like 9V A/C if I remember right. I could be wrong though. I'd assume the NTSC/J power supply might output A/C as well. Just find a photo of the back of a deck and it should tell you the voltage and polarity it requires as I am unsure.

On a final note. Honestly, having different color buttons on a SNES controller looks somewhat neat but it is very superficial. I found that after owning the official controller with the colored buttons, it lost its novelty real fast. It is only more cool if the controller is mint in sealed package or sealed bag and just for collecting and not for use. The NTSC/U controller is by far sufficient for gaming with.

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Videogamer555



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 6:30 am    Post subject: Re: SNES vs SFC controller? Reply with quote

amptor wrote:
Videogamer555 wrote:
I know there's difference in the button color and the labeling between the 2 controllers, but is there also an electronic difference? I'm asking because I saw this on the item page of an SFC controller being sold on Ebay.
Quote:
This controller is only for Japanese super famicom.


here's my quick answer: Controllers from all regions are compatible with all regions of consoles.

I usually use a PAL controller on my NTSC deck. NTSC/U controllers had concave and convex buttons designed so the player can determine which button is under his thumb. PAL and NTSC/J controller buttons are all convex.

About the power supply. Check what type of power supply the console requires. As far as I recall, the PAL power supply was not compatible with the NTSC/U deck. I think the NTSC/U deck required DC and the PAL one was designed to convert 220V A/C into something like 9V A/C if I remember right. I could be wrong though. I'd assume the NTSC/J power supply might output A/C as well. Just find a photo of the back of a deck and it should tell you the voltage and polarity it requires as I am unsure.

On a final note. Honestly, having different color buttons on a SNES controller looks somewhat neat but it is very superficial. I found that after owning the official controller with the colored buttons, it lost its novelty real fast. It is only more cool if the controller is mint in sealed package or sealed bag and just for collecting and not for use. The NTSC/U controller is by far sufficient for gaming with.


I mean the actual shape of the power supply connector too. Is the NTSC/J powersupply connector that goes to the machine the same shape as the powersupply connector for the NTSC/U console?
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kyuusaku



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SFC: standard jack, DC
NTSC SNES: strange jack, DC
PAL SNES: standard jack, AC or DC
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amptor



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ya as far as I remember the PAL jack looked weird compared to the NTSC/U system. I don't pull my PAL deck out of the box very often.

This should help. AC 9V just as I thought. NTSC/U is DC 12V as far as I recall.

http://nfggames.com/forum2/index.php?topic=3881.0

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Mystic_Merlin



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 8:02 am    Post subject: Re: SNES vs SFC controller? Reply with quote

amptor wrote:


here's my quick answer: Controllers from all regions are compatible with all regions of consoles.

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NTSC controllers don't work on PAL SNES, but the controller PCB can be easily modded to bypass this protection.
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Tomy
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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can fix it, check here : http://www.gamesx.com/misctech/eurosnescontrol.htm
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titou



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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,
I'm french so i know some things about the PAL SNES system.
For answer about the pads, the japan Super Famicom and the US SNES will accept every pads from ervywhere (US / JAP / EUR).
The probleme is for the European model : the pads are region locked !! Evil or Very Mad

But, if this is your problem, you can solve it easily, just take a look here (in French sorry) Wink
http://www.obsolete-tears.com/dezoner-le-port-manettes-dune-super-nintendo-et-changer-la-led-power-dossier-91.html

Just link the 4 x "2 same colors" points like on the pictures.
If you want, you can change the LED too Razz

See you,
Titou.

EDIT : Sorry Tomy, didn't saw your link... Arrow
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