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KanedaFr



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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 7:22 am    Post subject: Super Magic Drive technicals data Reply with quote

Hi all,

some times ago, one of my forum's members started a threah about the SMD.
Every member who still owned a SMD helped and we were able to compile a lot of informations.
These informations are available on a dedicated webpage

I post here because I know you guys know a lot of other things.
For exemple, this thread is very important but
- it doesn't explain how to identify a v1 from a v2 or a v3 SMD
- since cherryroms is dead (hélas), there is no more information about 32M upgrade
- reprogram the EPLD is impossible since we don't find a trace of the source (the hardware isn't a problem)

I also wasn't able to find someone with a genuine floppy drive.
Mine is broken so I'm unable to provide a valid pic of the PCB (not pretty sure to what the 7805's VIN is connected to...)
SpoonMan, I used one of your pic for illustration purpose. It links to your website but if it's not enought or want it to be removed, tell me.

SO, if you have any information and/or want to help, msg me Wink

thanks

Kaneda
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Riko78



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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 9:55 am    Post subject: smd Reply with quote

great job !!!!!

I have a MDS 8mb, and I understand how to upgrade to 32mb ...

I understand it, the battery of SMD and so will ruin the motherboard? I recommend you open the Magid Drive and unsolder the battery?
I wonder if the Super Wildcard DX battery will have the same problems?

However, I am willing to give if you want more information on SMD.

thanks.
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KanedaFr



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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

yes, if you never opened it, do it right now and check the battery!
if it's still here, check if it is corroded...if yes, remove it.
if not, keep it and check it time to time.
Of course, without it, you can't save game data (and so can't play RPG games!)

I'm working on a way to use a SRAM NV controller (with standard battery button) to resolve this.

Right now, I'm on the floppy drive...if you have it, I'm looking for a clean picture of the 7805 pins (back & front).

thanks

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madman



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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2011 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have an original SMD floppy drive, I can take a pic this week for you.

Also, in addition to offering the 32m upgrade, they did sell new 32m units as well, I happen to own one with the 32m sticker on the box. It's the only one I've ever really seen.
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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2011 8:54 am    Post subject: smd Reply with quote

madman have you other 32mb upgrade????
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KanedaFr



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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2011 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cool! thanks madman!

I'm looking for better pics than these one:
http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/3073/p1060442r.jpg
http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/2517/p1060445.jpg
http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/7015/p1060446b.jpg
Like you can see, one of the 7805 pins isn't connected on my floppy PSU (which is a error) so I would to see a 'good' one


about the 32M, of course I'm interested in.
But I read you need to reprogram the EPLD so without the ELPD code, it's useless no ? and what bios version have you ? v4 I presume....

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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2011 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't remember BIOS version, it came w/instructions showing v3.1, but it is obviously newer than that. Serial is A6309. Box shows A6308, but the unit and EPROM both have A6309. I'll try to dig it out this week and post pics/info.
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

busy week end ? Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got confirmation last week there is a very small trace which makes the connection between the 7805's VIn and the 12V output from the relay.
Mine was burnt by the awful fix of my SMD's previous owner.

Still looking for a picture to illustrate the fix on the SMD page but, at last, I'll be able to fix mine.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could as well replace the whole PCB with a perfboard with DC input and a simple switch, using a +C- 5V/1A PSU. I did that once for a Supercom but it was a bit messy so I'll probably make a new one as I just brought back a boxed SMD from my trip in HK.

BTW my SMD is just a 8M version but luckily the memory board uses socketed DIP P21014. Any idea what's the equivalent for 2M (512,288x4) chip?

PS: Au fait très sympa ton site Kaneda Wink

EDIT: just re-read 16M needed a MUX on early versions so just replacing the chips won't work...I think I have one of these boards somewhere but if anybody can provide a picture...
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I know...
More exactly, you could make your own PSU using 5V + relay...
SMD switches the PSU "ON" using pin8 of the DB25
I made the schematic of the current PSU (with the help of CharlesMD), it is available on my blog. I need to add the DB25<->FDD connections before I add it to the dedicated SMD page.

About the memory board, we at least saw 4 of them:
tcdev's
Charles'
Koji's
mine

but, like you pointed out, I assume you need something special on some SMD versions...perhaps a newer version of EPLD program ?
I still don't know how to make the difference between the "3" versions of SMD
I know some of them miss a chrystal but don't know which one...

ps: merci, mais il date un peu...meme si je le mets de temps en temps a jour Wink

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's my SMD. The only differences I see are the missing resistance array near U6 and the chips' references have been erased.

Not sure if it's more or less common but as pictured on the box this one was sold by CCL and not FFE.

So far I successfully loaded roms via the comport. SMS roms converted with gg2md are not working though, it's freezing the copier.

The only weird issue I have is that the only way to bring back the SMD's menu screen is to switch off and on very quickly. Otherwise the SMD does not wipe out its memory, sometimes it reload the game with garbage data and if a cart is plugged in it can also load the cart directly bypassing the SMD's menu...



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow! thanks for the pics! Smile

so yours miss the RC circuit too...
Is it also a SMD 94V-0 PCB ? it's a shame they didn't change PCB ID each revision Sad

since it's a CCL one, I assume it uses the v3 BIOS but coud you confirm ?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KanedaFr wrote:
wow! thanks for the pics! Smile

so yours miss the RC circuit too...
Is it also a SMD 94V-0 PCB ? it's a shame they didn't change PCB ID each revision Sad

since it's a CCL one, I assume it uses the v3 BIOS but coud you confirm ?


Sure, no prob, let me know if you need higher res Wink

It's indeed a SMD 94V-0 PCB but guess what, it's the same ref as one of the Supercom's 16M I tried unsuccessfully on it... This one is the most common memory board you'll find on Magicom/Supercom/SPF and SPFQ copiers.

Since it was laying around I took some shots for you.




I confirm the BIOS is the V3 from 1991.
Reading your description of the v3.1G and considering the issue I stated earlier when I sometimes switch on my SMD, I wonder if the v3 does not also load up the cart into DRAM. I guess you know better if you went through the disassembled BIOS code Razz

Using VGS I also noticed I was able to dump the SRAM content but not the cart. I'm wondering if it's worth upgrading the BIOS? At least to get those SMS games running?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Sure, no prob, let me know if you need higher res

HI res pic are always welcome Wink
on electronic part like this one, it VERY useful !



It seems you have the same mem board than Koji

It's funny because it's totally different from mine

Did I understand well ? SMD shares the same memory board that some others SNES backup units ?

Quote:

confirm the BIOS is the V3 from 1991.
Reading your description of the v3.1G and considering the issue I stated earlier when I sometimes switch on my SMD, I wonder if the v3 does not also load up the cart into DRAM. I guess you know better if you went through the disassembled BIOS code

what do you mean by that ? yes v3 is able to load cart to DRAM.
But when you select "run IC cart", it plays it directly from cart (not DRAM).

Quote:

Using VGS I also noticed I was able to dump the SRAM content but not the cart. I'm wondering if it's worth upgrading the BIOS? At least to get those SMS games running?

Did you try Ucon64 ? or RBDUtil (win only) ?
about SMS support, I think only a few games are supported...
I read it somewhere, but I don't remember where...and perhaps for another backup unit!

About upgrading, IMO v3.3 is the best one...
v4 is good but it removes some stuff I like...
I say it looking at each one available functions since I wasn't able to test them myselft since, unfortunatly, I don't know which one works on which SMD...
since yours is an old one, I assume v4 won't work but it would be wonderful to confirm it... The DRAM mapping (page size, page bank) is handled on code but I assume EPLD must be different...

I plan to make a multibios in some months, I'll be able to test it myself on my SMD, but it seems to be a "new" one...(v2?)
If you know someone with a v4 bios, I'll be very interested in hi res pic of its board and dram board!!

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